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Comments on: State Income Taxes: An Extra $20,000 In Our Pocket https://www.maxoutofpocket.com/state-income-taxes-an-extra-20000-in-our-pocket/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=state-income-taxes-an-extra-20000-in-our-pocket Where personal finance meets healthcare. Mon, 05 Jul 2021 12:20:28 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.7.11 By: Max OOP https://www.maxoutofpocket.com/state-income-taxes-an-extra-20000-in-our-pocket/#comment-5917 Mon, 05 Jul 2021 12:20:28 +0000 https://www.maxoutofpocket.com/?p=11825#comment-5917 In reply to Frugal Professor.

Hi Professor! Thanks for sharing that link – I like how the rundown is pretty standardized. Any top destinations for retirement?

Have a good long weekend.

Max

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By: Max OOP https://www.maxoutofpocket.com/state-income-taxes-an-extra-20000-in-our-pocket/#comment-5915 Mon, 05 Jul 2021 12:17:20 +0000 https://www.maxoutofpocket.com/?p=11825#comment-5915 In reply to David.

Hi David – $8,000 property taxes? Ouch! That’s 66% of my rent! I heard Washington State is now hitting capital gains as well, but only on gains of 250k or more. Not sure of the details, but likely something I would never need to worry about.

Hope you are well and had a nice 4th!

Max

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By: David https://www.maxoutofpocket.com/state-income-taxes-an-extra-20000-in-our-pocket/#comment-5483 Sun, 27 Jun 2021 19:37:22 +0000 https://www.maxoutofpocket.com/?p=11825#comment-5483 In Virginia (#37), we have a top bracket, 5.75% state income tax. You’re in that bracket unless you make less than $17k of taxable income. And if you’re in a metro area, like Northern Virginia, I suspect that local property tax rates are much higher than the numbers quoted in that link. I pay over $8k of property tax each year, and I’m not living in a palatial estate, but a two story, 2400 sq.ft colonial.

I do miss Washington state (#24) with its 0% state income tax. Living in Seattle, I can attest that they tried to make up for it with a +9% when we lived there. But low consumption made it not so much a biggie.

I would totally be game for a national VAT and dropping the income tax rates a bit.

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By: Frugal Professor https://www.maxoutofpocket.com/state-income-taxes-an-extra-20000-in-our-pocket/#comment-5461 Sun, 27 Jun 2021 14:28:45 +0000 https://www.maxoutofpocket.com/?p=11825#comment-5461 Ignoring stimulus payments, I paid the following last year:
* $17.9k federal
* $8.6k state
* $8.5k property tax
* $355 license plate renewal (two ten year old cars)
* ??? sales tax; probably not too high given they don’t tax groceries

So I pay about as much in state as I do federal. If I didn’t do tax optimization (529, 403b, 401a, 457, HSA, Backdoor Roth), it would be much much worse.

I daydream daily of leaving this high tax state. I would prefer to be taxed on my low consumption. Preferably, I’ll retire to a state with low recurring property taxes.

This is the best resource I’ve found for digging into state tax burdens: https://smartasset.com/taxes/new-hampshire-tax-calculator

Substitute “new-hampshire” in the URL above with any other state for a really detailed overview of the tax regime.

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By: Max OOP https://www.maxoutofpocket.com/state-income-taxes-an-extra-20000-in-our-pocket/#comment-5409 Sat, 26 Jun 2021 12:25:26 +0000 https://www.maxoutofpocket.com/?p=11825#comment-5409 In reply to Medimentary.

Thanks, Dr. Medimentary.

Good luck on the move! Glad you are getting back closer to your roots! Interesting, moving from a marginal income tax state to a flat tax state! Looks like CO has a flat tax (4.63%) on income a lot I had like North Carolina.

You are right, there is a whole other side to this equation that should look at what we are getting (or what we are supporting) with our tax dollars. Paying a higher rate for better education makes a ton of sense. Now that I have a child, I can definitely see looking into that much more than I have.

Take care,

Max

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By: Medimentary https://www.maxoutofpocket.com/state-income-taxes-an-extra-20000-in-our-pocket/#comment-5365 Fri, 25 Jun 2021 17:28:00 +0000 https://www.maxoutofpocket.com/?p=11825#comment-5365 Interesting post Max. This speaks to geographic arbitrage. Instead of income and cost of living being the main drivers, I think some folks look at state income tax as well.

I took a look at your WalletHub link and they present an interesting table. In about a week I will be moving from a low income-tax state (MO) to an average state (CO). The difference in state income tax will be about 0.56%.

The move is for personal reasons and quality of life and I’ve thought about what else I’m gaining. Since the largest line items in a state budget usually are k-12 education, Medicaid/CHIP, and higher education, I am quite happy to be taxed a little more for these services.

On the flip side, I will be moving to a lower property tax rate. Since I currently rent and plan to buy at some point in the future, this may just cancel everything out.

In general, I think the more I pay in taxes (marginal income tax), the better off I must be doing. Overall, it’s a good problem to have!

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